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It is free, confidential and available around the clock. People who are being harmed are often the last to name it, usually because they have been told for years that they overreact. A hotline call costs a miserable marriage nothing and can change everything in the other case. Once safety is established, we can talk about whether the marriage is workable." } }, { "@type": "Question", "name": "Can you tell me how to leave, or help me plan it?", "acceptedAnswer": { "@type": "Answer", "text": "No. I do not give legal advice and I do not do exit or safety planning. The legal part belongs to a family law attorney in your state, and if safety is a factor, planning belongs with domestic violence advocates who are trained for exactly that. What I do is the part before and the part after: whether this marriage is actually finished, and who you want to be while you find out." } }, { "@type": "Question", "name": "My spouse will not come in. Is there any point coming alone?", "acceptedAnswer": { "@type": "Answer", "text": "Yes, and a lot of people start that way. We look at your half of the pattern, which is the only half you control. In my experience the other spouse often joins within a few sessions once they see this is a conversation and not a trial where they are the defendant. What I will not do is coach one person on tactics for managing the other." } }, { "@type": "Question", "name": "Is it better for the child if we stay together?", "acceptedAnswer": { "@type": "Answer", "text": "I am a coach, not a child psychologist, so I will not make developmental claims and you should be wary of anyone who does from a website. What I see in the room is that children read the temperature of a house with or without the words. That is not an argument for staying or for going. It is an argument for stopping the performance and getting honest about which one you are actually doing." } } ] } ] --- [![Parent Marriage](/__l5e/assets-v1/323329b7-bfb6-4413-bc32-07161cb70b98/parent-marriage-logo.png)](/) [Home](/)[The 8 Stages](/help-me-save-my-marriage)[About](/about)[Marriage Straight Talk](/free-marriage-advice) [305-986-2905](tel:+13059862905)[Book a consultation](/book) [Book](/book) 1. [Home](/) 2. Toxic Marriage Guide # Leaving a Toxic Marriage When You Have a Child If you typed that phrase into a search bar at 11pm, you are further along than you think. Before anything else, there is one line I will not blur, and it is at the top of this page for a reason. ![Worried parents sitting beside their daughter's bed](/assets/worried-parents-sitting-near-sick-daughter-in-bedr-2024-11-17-15-08-06-utc-Medium-C7IquHZM.jpeg) Nobody searches this phrase casually. People search it after a long stretch of telling themselves it is not that bad, and then one night it is that bad, and the search happens in a bathroom or a parked car with the phone brightness turned down. I have sat with a lot of people on the far side of that night. What I want to do here is be straight with you about two very different situations that both get called toxic, because they need two completely different responses and the wrong one costs you time you do not have. So the important part goes first. If there is physical, sexual or emotional abuse in your home, or if you feel unsafe, this is not coaching work and I will not pretend otherwise. That goes to a licensed professional and to domestic violence resources. In the United States, the National Domestic Violence Hotline is free, confidential and staffed around the clock at 1 800 799 7233. If you are in immediate danger, call 911. I am a coach. I do not diagnose, I do not treat, and I do not give legal advice or tell anyone how to plan an exit. Nothing below is a substitute for a lawyer or for people trained in safety. In this article 1. 01 [The line I will not blur](#safety-first) 2. 02 [Toxic is one word doing two very different jobs](#two-different-words) 3. 03 [The question underneath the one you typed](#the-question) 4. 04 [What the work looks like when the marriage is not dangerous](#what-i-do) 5. 05 [The child in the middle of it](#the-child) 6. 06 [If the answer turns out to be no](#if-you-decide-to-go) 7. 07 [Talk it through](#talk-it-through) 8. 08 [Questions couples ask](#faq) ## The line I will not blur I get calls where someone describes what is happening in their house and I stop them inside the first 5 minutes. That is not me being cautious about my license. It is that coaching is the wrong tool and using it would waste months while somebody is being hurt. Coaching works by getting two people to look honestly at a pattern they both contribute to. That premise falls apart completely when one person is frightened of the other. The moment fear is in the room, honesty is not available, and any framework I put on top of it just gives the frightening person better vocabulary. So no. If any of the following is part of your marriage, please call the number above or a licensed professional, and let them tell you what the next move is. Not a coaching conversation - Anything physical, ever Grabbing, blocking a doorway, throwing things, driving dangerously to scare you. It does not have to leave a mark and it does not have to be recent. - Sexual coercion Pressure, threat, or being worn down until saying no stopped feeling like an option. That belongs with a licensed professional, not with me. - Fear as the daily weather If you manage your own face, your own phone, your own schedule all day to keep someone from going off, that is not a communication problem. - If you are not sure Treat it as this column. Make that call first. If it turns out to be the other thing, you have lost one phone call and gained a clear head. ## Toxic is one word doing two very different jobs Here is why the word causes so much trouble. Some people say toxic and mean danger. Others say toxic and mean misery: contempt at the dinner table, a spouse who goes silent for 3 days, arguments that have stopped being about anything, a house that has gone cold and stayed cold. Both of those genuinely hurt. Only the second one is something I can help with, and telling them apart is the first honest act available to you. I am deliberately not giving you a scoring sheet here. People in danger are extremely good at reading a list and deciding they do not quite qualify, usually because someone has spent years telling them they exaggerate. So the rule I use with clients is simpler. If you cannot sort yourself confidently into one of these, sort yourself into the first one and make the call. Nothing bad happens to a miserable marriage because you spoke to a hotline. Something very bad can happen the other way around. Call the hotline or a licensed professional Not safe This is where coaching lives Not working You have edited your own behavior for years to avoid a reaction. You have both stopped trying and the house has gone quiet. You do not have real access to money, your documents, or your own phone. You argue about money constantly and neither of you has enjoyed the conversation since 2019. Something physical has happened, or you believe it could. Nothing physical has ever happened and neither of you believes it would. You are frightened of what happens when you say the word leave out loud. You are frightened of the paperwork, the kid, and telling your mother. ## The question underneath the one you typed Assume for the rest of this page that you are in the second column. Here is what I notice about people who search how to leave: most of them are not asking how. They are asking whether. They want somebody to look at the last 4 years and say yes, that is enough, you are allowed to stop. I cannot give you that, and you should be suspicious of anyone who does inside an hour of meeting you. What I can do is get the question into a shape where you can actually answer it, because right now it is probably sitting in your head as one enormous undifferentiated dread that gets larger every time you try to think about it at midnight. The useful version is not is this marriage toxic. It is this: has either of us ever put a real, unhedged, undefended request in front of the other and had it land. Most people who have been miserable for years have never actually done that. They have hinted, they have blown up, they have gone quiet and waited to be noticed. That is not the same thing, and until it has been tried once properly, nobody knows what this marriage is capable of. The honest reframe You are not deciding whether to leave a marriage. You are deciding whether to find out what the marriage is, and then deciding. Those are different jobs and only the first one is available today. ![A father and his sad daughter, holding a teddy bear, sitting on a sofa](/assets/partial-view-of-father-and-sad-daughter-with-teddy-2024-11-11-07-21-34-utc-Medium-DqM9WMYS.jpeg) A parent can be present and still be carrying a decision they have not said out loud. ## What the work looks like when the marriage is not dangerous This is Stage 3 in my framework, the stay or go stage, and it is some of the most useful work I do. It is not couples therapy and it is not a rescue mission. It is a structured, time limited attempt to establish what is actually there, run by someone whose job is to keep the two of you honest rather than comfortable. I go through the whole arc of it in [stage 3, stay or go](/stage-3-stay-or-go). Plenty of people start this alone because their spouse will not come in. That is fine and it is common. We work on your half of the pattern, which is the only half you control anyway. What I will not do is help you build a case, coach you into a strategy for handling your spouse, or manufacture the certainty you want so you can act on it and blame the framework later. If what you are really feeling is that there is no exit at all, for money reasons or family reasons or immigration reasons, start with [reasons for feeling trapped in a marriage](/reasons-for-feeling-trapped-in-a-marriage) instead, because that is a different knot. > Most people who tell me they want to leave have never once made a clear request and let it land. Matthew W. Hoelscher, PCC ![A sad girl listening to her parents arguing at home](/assets/sad-girl-listening-to-her-parents-arguing-2023-11-27-05-20-19-utc-Medium-zVun5Pxc.jpeg) Children read the temperature of a house long before they understand the words. ## The child in the middle of it I am not a child psychologist and I am not going to make claims about developmental outcomes. What I can tell you is what shows up in my office, which is that small children are not fooled. They do not need to hear the words to read the temperature. Parents burn enormous energy on the performance and then are stunned when a 4 year old asks why nobody talks at breakfast. If you want guidance on what to say to your child, or if your child is struggling, that goes to a licensed professional who works with children. It is not my lane and I will say so. What I do work on is the thing between the two adults that the child is standing in the middle of: where the arguments happen, when they happen, and whether either of you has agreed on anything about how this gets handled in front of them. That is a marriage conversation and it is very much mine. ![An aggressive man verbally assaulting his wife and daughter at home](/assets/violence-at-home-aggressive-man-verbally-assault-h-2024-10-18-08-44-52-utc-Medium-B7KFPBJ5.jpeg) If this is your house, the first call is to the hotline or to a licensed professional, not to a coach. ## If the answer turns out to be no Sometimes it is no. I have sat with couples who did the work properly, gave it a real run, and concluded that this marriage is finished. That is not a failure of the process. It is the process doing its job, and there is a large difference between ending something after you looked at it clearly and ending something in the middle of a Tuesday night fight. What happens next is not my department. The legal side, custody, filings, money, any of it, belongs to a family law attorney in your state and you should get one early rather than late. I do not give legal advice and I will not guess at it. Where I stay useful is the part nobody plans for: who you intend to be through it, what you are still responsible for as a parent, and how you put down the version of yourself that has been braced for 4 years. Some of that is in [how to let go of what no longer serves you](/how-to-let-go-of-what-no-longer-serves-you). Where the lines are - Mine Whether the marriage is workable, what each of you actually wants, how the two of you speak to each other while you figure it out, and who you are on the other side. - A lawyer's Everything legal. Filing, custody, support, property, timelines, your rights in Florida or anywhere else. Get real advice from someone licensed to give it. - A licensed professional's Abuse, safety, an active addiction, an untreated mental health condition, or a child who is struggling. I refer these out on the first call, every time. ## Talk it through If you are in the second column, and you want one honest conversation before you decide anything, [book a free 25 minute call](/talk-to-marriage-coach). It is for first timers and it costs nothing. If what you describe belongs somewhere else, I will tell you that in the first few minutes and point you at it. If you are still weighing coaching against the clinical route in general, I wrote a straight comparison in [marriage therapy vs marriage coaching](/marriage-therapy-vs-marriage-coaching). ## Questions couples ask ### What if I am not sure whether my marriage is abusive or just very unhappy? Then treat it as the first one and call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1 800 799 7233. It is free, confidential and available around the clock. People who are being harmed are often the last to name it, usually because they have been told for years that they overreact. A hotline call costs a miserable marriage nothing and can change everything in the other case. Once safety is established, we can talk about whether the marriage is workable. ### Can you tell me how to leave, or help me plan it? No. I do not give legal advice and I do not do exit or safety planning. The legal part belongs to a family law attorney in your state, and if safety is a factor, planning belongs with domestic violence advocates who are trained for exactly that. What I do is the part before and the part after: whether this marriage is actually finished, and who you want to be while you find out. ### My spouse will not come in. Is there any point coming alone? Yes, and a lot of people start that way. We look at your half of the pattern, which is the only half you control. In my experience the other spouse often joins within a few sessions once they see this is a conversation and not a trial where they are the defendant. What I will not do is coach one person on tactics for managing the other. ### Is it better for the child if we stay together? I am a coach, not a child psychologist, so I will not make developmental claims and you should be wary of anyone who does from a website. What I see in the room is that children read the temperature of a house with or without the words. That is not an argument for staying or for going. It is an argument for stopping the performance and getting honest about which one you are actually doing. [Book a free call ](/book) ![Matthew W. Hoelscher, marriage coach in Miami](/__l5e/assets-v1/793ff08a-677d-4393-a950-cb99a7968138/matt-portrait.jpg) Matthew W. Hoelscher, PCC ICF Professional Certified Coach and the marriage coach behind Parent Marriage, in Miami. 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